Site français sur la musique japonaise - French Site about japanese music
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How in the world did this submission - something that isn't even in English and clearly doesn't belong on this site - get two socs?
That's because someone, unfortunately, is soc'ing everything just to get points.
That's not entirely fair -- I soc'ed it because it was an interesting blog about Japanese music. Once again, if the rules are "english blogs only", that's fine, but at least say so somewhere.
@Nick - that is a pretty lame situation, indeed. The soc'ing everything just to get points, I mean.
I give a lot of peoples stories Socs so they can be 'rewarded' for submission of the story (the person submitting or the site or the site owner if different) and get on the front page and maybe get a few more clicks. The pithy line of text written about the story, when an article is submitted (this includes my descriptions), isn't worthy of giving the article a Soc ... i mean, do people really head off to the site, read the article then come back and say 'hmmmm, yes ... worthy of me clicking that button now'?? ... personally i check the upcoming or the popular depending on how long it's been since visiting, and open a heap of articles with 'open in new tab' while i go down a soc a few too.
Maybe i'm not treating the soc'ing process serious enough.
Look, it's common sense. The site is in English, the readers all use English. That's why I'm writing this in English as opposed to Arabic. This is rightfully buried as "inappropriate" because the Terms of Service state, "you agree that you will not: ... (c.) submit links or bookmarks that are unlawful, obscene, defamatory, libelous, threatening, pornographic, harassing, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive, or encourages conduct that would be considered a criminal offense, give rise to civil liability, violate any law, or is otherwise inappropriate;"
"otherwise inappropriate".
God, I am so sick of English speakers who think that they are representative of (or even the majority of) foreigners in Japan.
Fine, go ahead and lock out other languages if you want, but it'll certainly make this place less interesting/cool. But at least have the stones to put up a real rule about it, and don't equate somebody's French blog with the hate speech and spam that the rule that you posted was obviously meant to address.
I've been reading your blogs etc. since you started JapanSoc; I never expected you to be as exclusionary as you are. It seems uncharacteristic.
"God, I am so sick of English speakers who think that they are representative of (or even the majority of) foreigners in Japan."
That has nothing to do with this. JapanSoc is an English language website, and its admins are English language speakers.
If LongCountDown allowed submissions in any language, the site would be a confusing mess and the primary audience - English speakers- would be driven away. It would also be impossible for the admin to judge if stories were appropriate or inappropriate.
Well, actually it is kind of cool to see a French blog on Japansoc. I mean people from all parts of the earth come to Japan and have amazing stories ti share society. People from all over the world speak different languages. It could also bring in more users if non-English blog pops up from time to time.
All I am saying is for y'all to give it a chance just for a little while and see of it works. In the end, I will respect the final decision of the admin on this issue.
It is so amazing... I can't understand why do you say that, why do you do that about my blog. It is a blog like the others, and, on it, we speak french. I can't see what is the problem. The fans of Japan must speak English?
Fans of Japan don't have to speak English, but when they submit links to English language websites, those links should be in English. This is common sense.
Well, whatever... *I* liked your blog, anyway, makki, and have added it to my RSS reader. Glad it was posted, even if it got buried.
I dunno if it's necessary to bury this guys. It is on topic, it's just not in English. I gotta say, if the point is to garner some traffic from readers of the site, then those who are inclined to hit a French site should feel free to do so. But I imagine there aren't too many. My high school French is too weak to get much from it. I think it'll naturally sort itself out. But there's no need for vitriol, guys. Let's be friendly!
By the way - I think the first article I ever submitted was in Japanese, and that got knocked down too. If Japanese language content isn't popular on a site related to Japan, I think you could make the same claim - it's just that some users can't read / enjoy it. You know?
In short: you can simply not soc something instead of burying it.
I agree with Deas - it will naturally sort itself out, if enough people don't speak enough of the language to enjoy it enough to Soc it then it will naturally bury itself.
Of course if the admin's can't tell whether the site is inappropriate in other more serious ways (offensive or racist etc...) that is a viable issue but this site seems pretty clearly about Japanese music.
If the "is this photo doctored" excuse for looking at high school girls' bums was both appropriate and relevant then this one is lol! The bum being Japanese does not make it about Japan imo.
@dasian - "If LongCountDown allowed submissions in any language, the site would be a confusing mess and the primary audience - English speakers- would be driven away. It would also be impossible for the admin to judge if stories were appropriate or inappropriate."
Exactly. Non-English content is not even allowed on Digg.com:
"6. Can I submit non-English content?
Digg is currently only an English-language content site. Please do not submit non-English content. We have plans to expand into other languages so if you would like to see Digg in your language, please email those requests to support@digg.com."
@awh - "don't equate somebody's French blog with the hate speech and spam... I never expected you to be as exclusionary as you are"
Give me a break. I quoted the part of the ToS that was applicable to this situation, but since you want more precise wording, I've added the following to section 3 of the Terms of Service: "you agree that you will not: ... (f.) submit non-English content."
As of now, no more French, Arabic, Russian, Chinese or any other non-English language submissions will be allowed. However, you are welcome to submit English translations of those sites. Go to Google Translate, convert your page to English and submit the url of the translation.
Fair enough! Ha ha. Does this mean this article will now get spiked, or will it naturally run off the bottom as the only non-English promoted story?
Unless it gets buried into deletion by other users, it will stay.
The admin has spoken. No non-English stories.
English translation of a story is a wonderful copromise - it means that those of us who can read other languages will still have our eyes opened to the links but everyone will be able to enjoy - nice one!
And, of course, when it comes down to it, it is your site so ... hehe
I don't see where the problem. If my site are bad, the admin didn't accept it, no?
The problem is not about sites being good or bad, it is about sites being in English or not. This is an English language social linking site, just like Digg.com, and both sites require submissions to be in English. This is not arrogance or thinking lowly of the French language, it's keeping the site on focus for its target audience.
The admin has decided that non-translated links will not be allowed in the future. Next time you submit, translate it.
Ok but I don't see the problem because, nothing say during my sumbmission, that my site must be English...
I'll support any administrative decision on this and am not looking to challenge it. But, in general, I think if the article description contains a sentence or two in English saying something like, "This is a ______ language site about Japanese ______," that seems OK to me. I think multilingual users of JapanSoc could benefit from such submissions. However, I could see JapanSoc being hijacked by a group of fellow bloggers who would only submit non-English stories and be unwilling to create a JapanSoc-like site in their own language. I mean, JapanBlogger has been hijacked to a small extent by a bunch of J-Pop blogging freaks who keep rating all non-J-Pop blogs at 1 star while giving their friends' blogs 5 stars.
Anyway, it's tough, but if the English-only rule stands, so be it.
Again, though, this is just my opinion, not a challenge.