written by awh 106 days ago
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I dunno, I don't like the pension system much either (for a different reason: any foreigner who stays in Japan for more than 3 years but less than their entire lives will lose a lot of money on the system). But your writeup about it seemed too much like the ranting of an insane lunatic. Maybe it's because I'm from another "commie pinko" country that has a similar system.
written by fz22gq 106 days ago
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Interesting point about "more than 3 yrs" .... are there any methods for accessing this money inbetween 3 yrs and lifetime?? .... and also, what's the criteria for getting it prior to 3 yrs, exit from Japan with no return i'm guessing.
written by freedomwv 106 days ago
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I do not understand how I could ever be consider an insane lunatic. I do not desire for someone else to benefit from my hard work. I earn that money so I should decide how I choose to invest it for my future. I can do a lot better job investing in my future than any government.
written by awh 106 days ago
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Here's a tip, then: If you don't want to come off sounding like a lunatic, don't use really emotionally-charged words like "pinko commie" to describe a capitalist but somewhat socialist system.
written by freedomwv 106 days ago
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Well socialized health care and government issued pensions are `pinko commie` programs.
written by dagbrown 106 days ago
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How dare the evil pinko commie government force you to participate in the country!
I can think of nothing more terrible than people who are well-off helping those who are less fortunate. Can you?
written by freedomwv 105 days ago
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Anyone in this world can achieve high success. It is not my problem if a person failed to strive to be the best they can be.
written by awh 106 days ago
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Well, obviously we aren't going to see eye to eye on this. I do hope for your sake that you will not need to use your health insurance, but I sure am glad that I have mine.
I will ask you, though, to do all of us foreigners a favour. Remember that the doctors and nurses at the hospital, and the guy who works down at city hall, do not make up the system. Being a jerk to them will do absolutely nothing to help your case, but it will hurt the image of foreigners in general.
Anyway, you seem like an interesting guy, despite the fact that we're not going to agree on this issue. Hope the new job goes well for you.
written by freedomwv 105 days ago
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The only persons image I am worried about is mine; personally I don`t care if I offend someone. If a person does not like me due to the way I choose to behave then that is too bad for them. Usually people who get so offend by me have no personal connection to me so I do not have to invest much of my energy in giving them reason to like me.
You seem like an interesting person as well. Although don`t call me insane please.
written by hartrick 106 days ago
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as these kind of taxes are based on a previous years income, you will get a benefit next year because I assume you only worked a portion of the fiscal year. I too don't like it but I chose Japan to live so good with the bad... try paying 48.5% in the dollar in tax like I used to in Australia... no thanks, I'll the the pinko system any day. I see it as motivation to stay gainfully employed without a pay cut... keep that as a strategy and the pinko system works for you. I also take full advantage of the almost free medical treatment I get... including dental which is a massive bonus... unlike Australia where you are gouged at every turn. Not sure how the US system stacks up, I would be keen to hear a comparison.
written by freedomwv 105 days ago
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48.5 percent! That is government gone way out of hand! What are they doing with all that money?
written by Deas 106 days ago
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I dislike the socialist tendencies of the Japanese government, but I obviously accept them for my short term stay here. I'm sad to watch America go the same way. I should not have to pay for your broken arm. It's all about personal responsibility for me.
written by billywest 106 days ago
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Even though I rarely go to the doctor, I do like the socialized health care system here because I think a government should take responsibility for the good health of its citizens. The pension plan here is a different story, at least as it applies to foreigners. I imagine with enough pressure, the Japanese government might be willing to extend the pension refund period to foreigners beyond 3 years. I read somewhere that the reason 3 years was decided upon was that it was believed that most foreigners returned to their home countries within three years. That was a statement made by the Ministry of Health and Welfare. Very statistical and cold, I know. But, before the 3-year refund there wasn't one, so things do change.
written by fz22gq 106 days ago
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Interesting info Billy ..... good to see there was some change but personally would like to see it lifed by another few years. I'm several years in so far ... although only 1 legally so 2 yrs to go i guess ... anything can happen in that time and would be nice to know i may be able to make a claim on the $$ if need be.
written by LongCountdown 106 days ago
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If the nurse is holding a needle, you might want to be nice to her.
written by awh 106 days ago
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Nurses are cute, you should be nice to them anyway.
written by freedomwv 105 days ago
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Good point. If she is really cute and holding a needle it will be hard to be mean to her.
written by ppayne 106 days ago
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Wow, I haven't read anything so stupid in a long time (referring to the original post here, not any comment). You are 99% better off in Japan than in Europe, Australia or the U.S. I think the writer need to take a strong drink of STFU.
written by hartrick 106 days ago
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I think I had my first bottle of STFU when I was 16years old... and it was a tallie.... never looked back...
written by freedomwv 105 days ago
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Don`t step on my freedom of speech ppayne. You may not agree with what I wrote but you can tell me to STFU.
written by Jim 106 days ago
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Wow...this is...
Mate, you have no idea. Seriously, how old are you? Have you ever had to pay for medical care in the US? Have you ever had to get insurance?
You haven't. I guarantee it.
If you're so good at investment, it shouldn't be a problem.
Christ, your ignorance and aggression disgust me.
written by bunny 106 days ago
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The level of literacy displayed in the full article is simply astounding. It has been years since I read such a well informed and accurate description of subterfuge perpetrated by our esteemed government in the name of "for your own good".
While reading your missive, it became clear to me that you really should return to your homeland and persuade your very own government to see the folly of letting its nationals charge ignorantly into foreign countries without first informing them of the underhanded tricks to part them from their well earned recompense they will face at every twist and turn. You may also want to have a trained professional take a look at your hair.
Intrigued by your fascinating diatribe, I looked at the "about the author" link, never have I seen a flat-cap worn so stylishly. From there, I went to your myspace page at
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The youth of today, seeing as you're "28", that means all the post hippy generations, must have awesome eyes to be able to read stuff like that without nausea and vomiting. Those fabulous greens just make me dizzy. This must be what they call art.
written by freedomwv 105 days ago
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HaHaHaHaHa! Sorry but I still have no desire to pay for your health care.
written by LongCountdown 106 days ago
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written by freedomwv 105 days ago
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Wow! I really got a response out of people. I am proud of myself. Don`t worry the insults do not hurt me. I am stronger than that.
written by dagbrown 103 days ago - show/hide this comment
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You mean apart from when you got all butt-hurt about the guy telling you to STFU?
Clue for ya: freedom of speech means that other people can tell you to STFU all they want to. Someone telling you to STFU doesn't infringe on your rights in any way.
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I dunno, I don't like the pension system much either (for a different reason: any foreigner who stays in Japan for more than 3 years but less than their entire lives will lose a lot of money on the system). But your writeup about it seemed too much like the ranting of an insane lunatic. Maybe it's because I'm from another "commie pinko" country that has a similar system.
Interesting point about "more than 3 yrs" .... are there any methods for accessing this money inbetween 3 yrs and lifetime?? .... and also, what's the criteria for getting it prior to 3 yrs, exit from Japan with no return i'm guessing.
I do not understand how I could ever be consider an insane lunatic. I do not desire for someone else to benefit from my hard work. I earn that money so I should decide how I choose to invest it for my future. I can do a lot better job investing in my future than any government.
Here's a tip, then: If you don't want to come off sounding like a lunatic, don't use really emotionally-charged words like "pinko commie" to describe a capitalist but somewhat socialist system.
Well socialized health care and government issued pensions are `pinko commie` programs.
How dare the evil pinko commie government force you to participate in the country!
I can think of nothing more terrible than people who are well-off helping those who are less fortunate. Can you?
Anyone in this world can achieve high success. It is not my problem if a person failed to strive to be the best they can be.
Well, obviously we aren't going to see eye to eye on this. I do hope for your sake that you will not need to use your health insurance, but I sure am glad that I have mine.
I will ask you, though, to do all of us foreigners a favour. Remember that the doctors and nurses at the hospital, and the guy who works down at city hall, do not make up the system. Being a jerk to them will do absolutely nothing to help your case, but it will hurt the image of foreigners in general.
Anyway, you seem like an interesting guy, despite the fact that we're not going to agree on this issue. Hope the new job goes well for you.
The only persons image I am worried about is mine; personally I don`t care if I offend someone. If a person does not like me due to the way I choose to behave then that is too bad for them. Usually people who get so offend by me have no personal connection to me so I do not have to invest much of my energy in giving them reason to like me.
You seem like an interesting person as well. Although don`t call me insane please.
as these kind of taxes are based on a previous years income, you will get a benefit next year because I assume you only worked a portion of the fiscal year. I too don't like it but I chose Japan to live so good with the bad... try paying 48.5% in the dollar in tax like I used to in Australia... no thanks, I'll the the pinko system any day. I see it as motivation to stay gainfully employed without a pay cut... keep that as a strategy and the pinko system works for you. I also take full advantage of the almost free medical treatment I get... including dental which is a massive bonus... unlike Australia where you are gouged at every turn. Not sure how the US system stacks up, I would be keen to hear a comparison.
48.5 percent! That is government gone way out of hand! What are they doing with all that money?
I dislike the socialist tendencies of the Japanese government, but I obviously accept them for my short term stay here. I'm sad to watch America go the same way. I should not have to pay for your broken arm. It's all about personal responsibility for me.
Even though I rarely go to the doctor, I do like the socialized health care system here because I think a government should take responsibility for the good health of its citizens. The pension plan here is a different story, at least as it applies to foreigners. I imagine with enough pressure, the Japanese government might be willing to extend the pension refund period to foreigners beyond 3 years. I read somewhere that the reason 3 years was decided upon was that it was believed that most foreigners returned to their home countries within three years. That was a statement made by the Ministry of Health and Welfare. Very statistical and cold, I know. But, before the 3-year refund there wasn't one, so things do change.
Interesting info Billy ..... good to see there was some change but personally would like to see it lifed by another few years. I'm several years in so far ... although only 1 legally so 2 yrs to go i guess ... anything can happen in that time and would be nice to know i may be able to make a claim on the $$ if need be.
If the nurse is holding a needle, you might want to be nice to her.
Nurses are cute, you should be nice to them anyway.
Good point. If she is really cute and holding a needle it will be hard to be mean to her.
Wow, I haven't read anything so stupid in a long time (referring to the original post here, not any comment). You are 99% better off in Japan than in Europe, Australia or the U.S. I think the writer need to take a strong drink of STFU.
I think I had my first bottle of STFU when I was 16years old... and it was a tallie.... never looked back...
Don`t step on my freedom of speech ppayne. You may not agree with what I wrote but you can tell me to STFU.
Wow...this is...
Mate, you have no idea. Seriously, how old are you? Have you ever had to pay for medical care in the US? Have you ever had to get insurance?
You haven't. I guarantee it.
If you're so good at investment, it shouldn't be a problem.
Christ, your ignorance and aggression disgust me.
The level of literacy displayed in the full article is simply astounding. It has been years since I read such a well informed and accurate description of subterfuge perpetrated by our esteemed government in the name of "for your own good".
While reading your missive, it became clear to me that you really should return to your homeland and persuade your very own government to see the folly of letting its nationals charge ignorantly into foreign countries without first informing them of the underhanded tricks to part them from their well earned recompense they will face at every twist and turn. You may also want to have a trained professional take a look at your hair.
Intrigued by your fascinating diatribe, I looked at the "about the author" link, never have I seen a flat-cap worn so stylishly. From there, I went to your myspace page at
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The youth of today, seeing as you're "28", that means all the post hippy generations, must have awesome eyes to be able to read stuff like that without nausea and vomiting. Those fabulous greens just make me dizzy. This must be what they call art.
HaHaHaHaHa! Sorry but I still have no desire to pay for your health care.
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