Why I Hate the JLPT and Why It’s a Waste of Your Time and Money

Posted by DBR, 279 days ago in Learning Japanese
 
Khatz has a good ol' fashioned rant about the JLPT in which I think he makes some great points (learn japanese to be fluent not to pass tests) and a few not so great (like saying it's useless to get the JLPT for your resume - sooo many people here and everywhere only look for the pieces of paper they don't want to spend time actually assessing you lol!)
 
 

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Written by Nick 279 days ago
 
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I read over on Debito's blog that Japanese language ability might be required in the future in order to obtain permanent residency. If that's the case, I bet they'll be wanting to see a certificate.
Written by mcalpine 279 days ago
 
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You heard correctly, but with anything from Debito, I wouldn't trust it. As for the blog in question, I read it and liked it. But not everybody can learn languages that way, and there's no way of telling whether he(author) learned it by rote.
Written by emily00 278 days ago
 
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I'm kind of in the middle about what he says. I just posted in his blog as 'Emily' telling my thoughts about it.
Written by DBR 278 days ago
 
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Hi Emily welcome on board! I went to read you comment and there were so many since I was last there! Prompted me to post mine:
"The thing is, whether it’s good motiviation or not is not the point at this stage - the point is what do you NEED it for? I absolutely agree that these tests do not prove that you are proficient in communicating and that companies who rely on JLPT to “prove” anything are being lazy by not testing people themselves nevertheless the fact is most HR departments ARE lazy these days and won’t consider anyone without the right pieces of paper.

The TOEFL/TOEIC comparison is I think an erroneous as these are not just about learning a language by wrote but provide some, if minimal, instruction on how to teach - which is a very different thing from being able to communicate colloquially in a language. Frankly, if I were an employer I’d be insisting on seeing these - not because of their quality, or lack thereof, but because it shows that the person in question has at least some level of commitment and respect for teaching a language. I have met some fantastic teachers of English here but many more who simply have no business even claiming to be able to do so and are committing fraud by accepting their paychecks."
Written by mcalpine 278 days ago
 
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I think what you meant to say Mr. English teacher was learning by rote, not wrote, think about it....
Written by ppayne 278 days ago
 
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Hi, just chiming in here. Having a hard goal like the JLPT helped me and as a result I bagged it in 2 years of coming here (level 1). I got it the next year because I wanted a higher score. Rather than doth protesting too much, you might try to see that there is some wisdom in some of the things the Japanese do, and see if you might not be wrong. I think you are.
Written by mcalpine 278 days ago
 
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you didn't bag the jlpt in 2 years.


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